Q: Restoring an old revolver (, ) Question Subject: Restoring an old revolver Category: Asked by: jkido-ga List Price: $5.00 Posted: 16 Feb 2006 11:08 PST Expires: 18 Mar 2006 11:08 PST Question ID: 446605 What's the proper way to restore a somewhat rusty old revolver? After my wife and I moved into our 100 year old SF Bay Area house, we discovered an old revolver hidden in the wall.

1. Remington New Model 1858 Serial Numbers
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3. Remington New Model 1858 Serial Numbers

Remington New Model 1858 Serial Numbers

The gun appears to be an 1858 New Army Remington revolver. It has the original cylinder (black powder chambers). The wood handle appears to be a replacement from the original, though it too appears to be very old and has about a dozen notches cut into it. The loading lever still moves, but the hammer spring is broken. The metal is rusted, and I'd like to make it look a little better. My question is this: I'd like to keep it as a souvenir, but what do I do with it?

My friends have suggested various treatments: (a) do nothing; (b) soak it in some kind of oil to remove the loose rust; (c) rub it clean with steel wool; (d) bring it to an old gun shop to have cleaned. What's the real deal? If it would help I can email a photo of the gun. Links/references to authoritative sources most appreciated. Answer Subject: Re: Restoring an old revolver Answered By: on 16 Feb 2006 12:13 PST Rated: Dear jkido-ga; Thank you for allowing me to answer your interesting question.

What an amazing find! The handgun you are referring to was designed by Italian gunsmith Aldo Uberti and was made for Remington by the company that bears his name, A. Remington didn?t actually introduce the New Model Army.44 revolver until 1863. The?New Model? Was an improved version of the earlier Remington-Beals and Remington Army revolvers of 1860, 1861 and 1862.

The basic patent for these designs was issued in 1858 so that?s how this particular model later became known as the '1858' Remington New Model Army. Remington purchased about 115,000 of these before the end of the Civil War so they were fairly plentiful. UBERTI/REMINGTON Even in good condition without substantial provenance linking it to a verifiable history the gun itself probably isn?t terribly valuable in terms of a significantly profitable treasure (depending more or less on the actual date of manufacture). Wilson?s guide for collectors, published in 1998, listed the price of a New Model Army from $700 to $2,500. The value may have gone up a bit by now but of course you must consider that we?re mostly talking about collector quality guns when we refer to the prices in this guide. TEXAS RANGER DISPATCH However, if you attempt to restore it on your own it could in fact become virtually worthless unless you know what you are doing. DO NOT rub or soak the weapon or try to manipulate the action.

This dry firing can horribly damage an old firearm beyond repair. Attempting to remove parts from an old firearm can also result in damage and occasionally removed parts will expand or damage threads and will not fit back in the position from which they were removed. Uberti firearms are still being sold today and there are many reputable dealers who can point you to the right place to have this process professionally done. I strongly recommend you contact one of them and pursue some professional restoration options according to their recommendations. There happen to be several dealers in your area that have an expertise specifically in Uberti firearms.

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Comments Subject: Re: Restoring an old revolver From: 5madfarmers-ga on 12 Sep 2006 06:54 PDT The previous answer is incorrect on a number of items. The Remington 'New Army' revolvers were manufactured under government contract during the US Civil War.

Samuel Colt's revolvers are better known of course and the reason Colt was so successful is he had some basic patents that were hard to get around. Remington purchased rights to Beal's 1858 patent and that formed the basis for the Remington revolvers.

In fact, early Remington-Beal revolvers are stamped with Beal's name and patent date. Later ones omit Beal's name and just carry the patent date of Sept 14 1858. Due to the patent date on the barrel, they are known incorrectly as 'Remington Model 1858s.' That designation is spurious as the correct model is 'New Army.'

1858 Remington Serial Number Dates

'New Army' is stamped as the 3rd line on the barrels. Uberti didn't 'design' the Remington revolver. Uberti is an Italian maker of modern replica revolvers and sells a replica of the Remington New Army.

Remington New Model 1858 Serial Numbers

The company Uberti S.r.l. Was founded in 1959 in Italy which is 101 years after the introduction of the Remington-Beal revolver.

Regards the original question, 'restoring' a Remington New Army revolver isn't particularly difficult. Remington manufactured over 100,000 of the revolvers so parts exists. Additionally, the revolver was made long enough ago that no 'exotic' technology existed so the parts are pretty simple. A qualified gunsmith specializing in older revolvers should be able to restore the revolver to a reasonable condition. Since the 'restored' revolver probably shouldn't be fired due to it's age, a simple cosmetic restoration would be as far as it would be wise to go. My recommendation would be to not restore it at all, the condition it is in is 'honest' and it should probably be left that way. Remington New Army revolvers have serial numbers.

The full serial number is on the bottom of the barrel under the loading lever, under the hand grip at the bottom of the frame, and the last 4 numbers of the serial are also on the back of the cylinder (stamped as two 2 digit numbers as there isn't room to stamp it together). All three serial numbers matching increases value.

Hope this helps. I have a Remington New Army and they're quite interesting historically. Important Disclaimer: Answers and comments provided on Google Answers are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Google does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. Please read carefully the.

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#4244 Remington 1858 “New Model” Army revolver, early serial number (29XXX) and thus probably saw service as an individuals private purchase, as I see no Federal inspectors markings and no cartouches on the grips. It does show some after-market repairs; one is the rammer catch (and this is a really decent repair, actually better than the original catch!) and the grips MAY be replaced, but at least the escutcheon for the grip screw is replaced. Scattered fine to moderate pitting pretty much overall on the metal, fair barrel markings, strongly rifled bore with lead build-up and scattered light to medium pitting (about 6-7 on a scale of 10), VG action with tight lock-up.

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